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Open Beta

By My status Berkus on June 28, 2006 in New betas and releases.

After almost 9 months of development, rumours, frustration, hope, absence of hope, resurrection of hope and killing of hope again I’m somewhat happy to announce the arrival of Skype for Linux 1.3.0.30 beta!

Since it is a beta its main purpose is to collect a lot of feedback from you, folks. Come and get it [here](http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html). I’ll briefly list major changes below, and feel free to tell me about anything that doesn’t work as expected, or even at all :)

### ALSA

Well, you certainly know about this - this was the main reason for launching 1.3 and it became its main issue. It’s now pretty stable and therefore possible to show it to the world finally. You will find a selector to switch between ALSA and OSS in the Options menu, Sound Devices tab. Switching between ALSA and OSS might require a restart of Skype, switching call device in ALSA and OSS should be effective immediately (just don’t think it will work inside an active call -- it will not).

### Public API

The dbus support haven’t grown much since last time, we’re still with good ol’ 0.23 -- this is sad. On the bright side, parsing of many commands has been improved and some nasty bugs fixed. We also have X11 API now, and I will prepare a demo application that shows how to use it soon.

### Graphics and sounds

Latest-greatest emoticons as well as flags are supported in this release. The graphic look of the program itself was refreshed, it looks a bit more sharp now. New sounds are in place, but due to a small bug they might click at the end -- please test and tell if they click for you or not.

### Mood messages

Mood messages are now supported, you can set your own in the profile editor (under Full Name) and you can view others’ ones in profile viewer (right click on contact -> View Profile).

There are many smaller bugfixes in the [change log](http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/changelog.html), and even smaller ones that didn’t make it into the list :)

All in all it’s a major milestone. It will relieve many and grieve some, but I’m optimistically waiting for your feedback.

Enjoy!

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The sound clicks alright.
The only new feature i actually noticed so far is that it doesn't take 2 minutes for the gui to show after the programm starts.. good work.
And of course the long overdue alsa... seems to work fine so far..

scarydoc | Wednesday, Jun 28

ALSA is working great.

I found a bug : when showing a user's profile, clicking the window instantly moves it to top left corner (i use debian sid, gnome 2.14)

It's a pity that user's mood message and picture doesn't appear in main window...

truenicoco | Wednesday, Jun 28

I forgot the most important point : WHERE IS VIDEO SUPPORT ?????

truenicoco | Wednesday, Jun 28

This version don't work under 64-bit Ubuntu. I was previously using "static version" and it worked fine...

I hope I will see 64-bit builds soon...

WielebnyK | Wednesday, Jun 28

When we could expect you to add video support?

zaus-marcin | Thursday, Jun 29

A few bugs/missing features.
1) Ring PC SPEAKER marked as fixed on changelog still doesn't work.
2) It just beeps once and stops.
3) Ringing in a different device is gray so we can not select.
Can not select subdevices for alsa.

salatiel.filho | Thursday, Jun 29

I can't cancel a call, killing an application helps :)

adamek_75 | Thursday, Jun 29

I can't call anyone using ALSA due to problems with the sound device. (Ubuntu 6.06)

dominik.mayer | Friday, Jun 30

Alsa works fine but WHY? I DON'T have option to use my USB webcam microphone as input device? I have only one call options withou input and output selection of devices.

martii | Saturday, Jul 1

I installed the previous Skype for Linux version.
As a result, my sound support for Linux by ALSA-PROJECT went wrong. I hate Skype!!!

http://lovelywdf.freehostia.com/phonetic/

mysql5.0 | Sunday, Jul 2

Thank you very much, I don't care about video, I know I am never going to use it :)

Alsa works great, and that's all I care about currently.

Thank you indeed again, but I advise you not to make Linux users wait 9 month for the second bugfix-release :)

bmagyarkuti | Sunday, Jul 2

Thanks! It's great to finally see ALSA support in Skype, even while I don't really do voice or video chats...
Bugs:
* I hear a click after "sent message" sound, just like you described
* Chat dialog headers cycle colors (grey-cyan-blue) insanely :)
* those same headers aren't very well-formatted. I can send a screenshot with that from home
* Animated smilies consume quite a lot of CPU cycles

It would be nice though to have interface more similar to what we have in windows. I'm talking about mood messages mostly (and i'm not sure if it's impossible, but if it is, it would be nice to be able not to see contact groups).

Also, it would be great if you allowed us to send file by dragging and dropping it on a chat window, like in windows.

That's probably all, for now... :) Keep up your work!

shinkius | Monday, Jul 3

Hello
I've tried the beta version on DEBIAN SARGE: everything is ok.I can finally use skype with alsa.
And I've tried the beta version on DEBIAN ETCH (testing). I can't use it with the alsa support. But with the alsa oss emulation, it's ok.
In the two cases, I don't hear a click after "sent message" sound.

Ive only one BIG disappointment: Where is video support ???
But however, it's a good job, go on ( and add the video support in the next version please ).

yanlot | Monday, Jul 3

Being able to select separate input and output devices for calls would be nice. E.G. What it I have a USB microphone and speakers on my soundcard? At the moment I have to modify my /etc/asound.conf to combine the microphone and the output into one device.

hugh_cole-baker | Monday, Jul 3

After waiting for ages, Alsa appears to be working well.

I would like to have "call forwarding" option now ...

srinath | Monday, Jul 3

Very nice, but we want the video!!
As a bug report, I had a problem on my Mandriva 2006 with kde3.5: clicking on a url pointing to an internet radio station, ALSA crashed. I had to logoff and re-login to have skype working again )problem with sound device).
Thanks for your efforts

cixmobile | Tuesday, Jul 4

> Being able to select separate input and output devices for calls would be nice.

Tweaking ALSA configuration may help. See:
http://juljas.net/linux/skype/

janslupski | Tuesday, Jul 4

Well, skype is fine for current registered user but when I try to create new account with this beta, It couldnt by saying Logging failed. Hope to be fixed with final release.

oryxz86 | Thursday, Jul 6

I am using Fedora Core 6 (beta) with 2.6.16.20 and I have a problem that in the middle of a call I can hear the other party but at some random part of the call they suddenly they cease to hear me. I have to exit and restart to make it work again. I tried OSS and ALSA.

Finally I downgraded and the old version worked fine. The only problem with the old version is that after a call it starts to think that it can't access the sound device until I quit and re-start it.

tnmurphy | Thursday, Jul 6

Thankyou :D I've been waiting soooo long, but finally arrived.

Been playing for a couple of hours and nothing to really comment on (except for the clicking!)

Just a suggestion to provide an option for animated text smileys like in the gmail chat function - i am a firm hater of stupid yellow faces (except the simpsons - like them) and think that a good text smiley is fine ... but even better if animated.

Thanks again!!

rohan_orton | Friday, Jul 7

At last - I have been waiting for this release for so long...

andre.baryudin | Saturday, Jul 8

It has been working fine for few days, without the illness of OSS emulation, however, when I try to initiate my 2nd call (the first works fine), I get 100% CPU utilization caused by Skype. Restarting the application solves the problem for one call.
This behaviour starts as soon as I press the "call" green button, and continues until hangup. No special behaviour occures when not during a call.
Debian unstable.

ezaton | Sunday, Jul 9

common guys, where is the native AMD64 support? you know you want to do it, give it, dont resist that feeling, let the compiler spit out a good AMD64 binary , in your next release, its just one good compile away.

Peaceout.

anshu_linux | Monday, Jul 10

Hello. I want (need) linux 64 version. There are many lot 64 bits pc architect in the world, then, why don't you have 64 bits version? Its absolutely necesary, and linux is really. Windows is a second option for my, I am preffered linux SO for surfing in the web, without viruses and spyware (or WinWare :p). I pay for skype, and I want use skype in linux, then, why do I must use windows (very expensive and bad) if exists linux, free and stable (but, without need for speed, halo, games, games ... etc.)?

constantino.alarcon | Tuesday, Jul 11

Alsa runs great ! I am so happy that I can listen to my music and then recieve a call. Thank you for your hard work!

wattazoum | Saturday, Jul 15

When someone contacts me the first time my computer happens to hang up. I'm unable to move the mouse or press any buttons. Not even Strg+Alt+Backspace lets me restart the X-Server. It seems as if every process is being stopped, every sounds (from CPU, hard drive or whatever) is interrupted. Most of the time everything normalizes after a few secons/minutes but I had to do a complete hard reset twice.

dominik.mayer | Sunday, Jul 16

This is great news!
I know everyone's asking about video, but that doesn't bother me much...
What about Web Presence? Both Windows and Mac support web-presence, why not Linux?

saxsux | Sunday, Jul 16

Since Skype 1.3 beta my buddies log in for about 15 min. Then they seem to log off for about 15 min. Then log in for 15min., log off for 15 min. again all the day. Not all buddies show this behaviour. Calling such "seem to be logged out"-buddies works perfectly and in this moment they suddenly appear as "logged-in".

Partyman79 | Tuesday, Jul 18

Sound quality in the 1.3 BETA on my system is significanty lower than in 1.2.0.18. I like the animated emoticons in the text chat but due to lower sound quality I returned to the 1.2.
When another party is speaking slownly, I hear scratching on the beginning and the end of the words. My returned voice from echo123 is very poor. Same behaviour with ALSA and OSS.
Everything is fine with 1.2.
P3 500 MHz, 256MB RAM, Gentoo, Kernel 2.6.17.6, ALSA 1.0.11, KDE 3.5.2

novomesk | Tuesday, Jul 25

I was commenting -- and complaining -- in another Skype blog about us Linuxers being abandoned for so long by the Skype company but -- only after pushing the post button -- I saw the link to Linux.

Great news I hear here. It won't be the "commercial" OS version with the bells and wistles but will be better than the last sound jumpy version I have to use-

Old Skype echoes and lost sound a lot when talking to MS Windows Skype users -- which have a much better version -- even if they ear me loud and clear.

Hope ALSA will solve all this anying stuff and hopping also that you had video t it soon soon.

Thanks a lot.

humaneasy | Saturday, Jul 29

Kubuntu 6.06, with default settings 1.2.0.18 worked roughly ok, but no one could here me on 1.3.,0.30 not even after a bit of fiddling.

lynoure | Monday, Jul 31

Hi,

I have Kubuntu 6.06, and sound is OK, Skype finally works for me. But when I try to shutdown Kubuntu with Skype running, it will not let me do it ... I have to close / quit Skype first and only after that I can shutdown my PC. With other stuff like Gaim, Firefox, Ekiga ... Kubunut can close them for me ... but not Skype :-o.

Thanks, looking forward to final 1.3. version :-).

Samy

samykovac | Monday, Jul 31

Great. On kanotix works fine. My vote for video support

sarioglou | Friday, Aug 4

Hi.

Has anybody ever pointed out, that if Contacts scroll box grows longer "suddenly" ( closing some yellow startup notices, opening services -> minimizing window -> restoring window -> closing services section ) there are some visual artifacts in the grown part of scrollbox? Was like this in previous version, still exactly the same in this version.

Looks like some pixels ( including backround picture ) of previously last contact line are repeating in every added line in weird diagonal patterns. Resizing window with mouse will normalize scroll box. Looks like something you do in window resize handler should also be done in some other places, where only scroll-box is resized.

Linux ztamd 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 #1 PREEMPT Fri Mar 31 08:50:34 UTC 2006 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.2-r4
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1

ztommm | Friday, Aug 4

Above (Tuesday, Jul 25) I complained about poor audio quality in 1.3beta compared to 1.2.0.18. Recently I recompiled the kernel with higher frequency of system timer (1000Hz instead of 100Hz), it seems it helped.

novomesk | Tuesday, Aug 8

Unfortunately, many users are experiencing problems with the ALSA support, and there are several outright bugs. Problems I've had or read about include: No audio as non-root, no audio with dmix, only first ALSA device is used, various jitter and latency issues. Also, the error-handling when audio doesn't work is very bad (it just keeps connecting till eternity).

So, no, I would not consider ALSA support "pretty stable".

felix.wiemann | Tuesday, Aug 8

I was looking forward to being able to access all those hidden chat histories through the history tab like I do on Windows but was disappointed to see the Call tab still there. Is there a problem with providing that? It seems like you are otherwise endevouring to make the GUIs all the same. What happened here?

carlyle.sutphen | Wednesday, Aug 9

Sound works fine here on Debian/testing. However, the chat has a serious bug: My first message is displayed in the chat window, all following incoming or outgoing messages are not. When I logged in at a later time, I found the chats under "unread chats" in my notification area of GNOME.

wendtswelt | Wednesday, Aug 9

For skype to be really useful, it is going to have to be able to use seperate sound devices for ringing and calls. Of course, you are the expert but I wouldn't think that would be too hard.

Great job and thanks for your hard work.

evilonod | Wednesday, Aug 9

Would it be possible to consider using gstreamer someday, instead of bare alsa ? If you are planning to add video to Skype Linux, gstreamer can be okey too, that would ease skype development a lot :) And let use decide the backend easily (he can switch between alsa, oss, jack, pulseaudio ... and for video can select between v4l and v4l2)

kqiman | Monday, Aug 14

Whoa...finally proof you havent forgot us linux folks :) ..tried every web browser i got even downloaded opera--cant skypecast-says "skype" not a protocol. Did an "about:configure" in firefox...no help...would love to skypecast but cant, other than that love it as always keep up the good work! :)...btw...um...er...video?...pretty please? ;)

birdofprey71 | Wednesday, Aug 16

Thx for developing also the Linux ver.!
TODO:
I miss the classic ringtones!! please let me download them - either in the package or separately.
I also miss the web presence. One checkbox, shouldn't hurt :D
BUGS:
In chat mode, not only the colouring is weird, but if I "click here to see previous messages", I get all the old messages twice!! (Or sometimes not, but then I don't get all the recent messages, just the few last. Weird...)
In general, the (click-)disappearing yellow system messages are handled badly. When I close the infobox "Call landlines..." it messes the bottom half of my contact list; when I resize the window, everything is OK again.
Sometimes I also noticed the contact info window "hopping" to the 0,0 corner of the screen on some clicks.
And yes, especially the smileys need much much CPU :(
Thx for reading my feedback!

torzsmokus | Thursday, Aug 17

Hi, the UI works ok but both beta versions including the more recent 1.3.0.37 doesn't deliver messages, never connects on phoning or make any sound at all for me so completely unuseable. This is after trying several different versions of alsa libraries however everything else on my system alsa wise or otherwise works great but it is possibly more bleeding edge on some libraries and some libraries may be older. Can you please publish the dependencies this skype binary depends on to work and this would help solve matters greatly as currently it's the only closed source app I need and the only app that doesn't work unless I go back to 1.2.0.18 where it would always mess up my sound and if possible I'd like to get this thing working like everyone else.

gentoo 2.6.17, alsa 1.0.12rc1, glibc 2.3.2

jgc.carter | Monday, Aug 21

Further to my last post, I've solved it by running it as root.
Please sort this out as not all of us amateur developers use root on the desktop!

jgc.carter | Monday, Aug 21

Thanks for the new version.
I was soooo hoping for call forwarding though. Please add it soon.

hkiessler | Monday, Aug 21

on ubuntu 6.06 is tested skype 1.3.0.37. i called a landline and my partner complained about the choppy sound, breaks in sound and hearing nothing. i heard him fine. so i cannot use this version.

philipp724 | Tuesday, Aug 22

the thing that's getting on my nerves is the Skype icon in the system tray, it keeps blinking all the time- I can see, instead of it, the yellow triangle with exclamation mark. I looks as if a warning or something like that. Please do something with it. Thanks.

paulinalodz3 | Tuesday, Aug 22

the thing that's getting on my nerves is the Skype icon in the system tray, it keeps blinking all the time- I can see, instead of it, the yellow triangle with exclamation mark. I looks as if it's a warning or something like that. Please do something with it. Thanks.

paulinalodz3 | Tuesday, Aug 22

What is the schedule of video for Skype on Linux ? Is anyone working on it ?

vkotal | Sunday, Aug 27

Like someone said earlier we want to use USB Webcam's microphone.
So two devices for the calling is needed Input/Output. I have broken microphone in integraded soundcard so I can only choose hear or to speak on the same call. :I

jani.ollikainen | Sunday, Sep 10

I tested skype-beta-1.3.0.30 and skype-beta-1.3.0.37 and both have the same problem on my SUSE 10.1 (kernel 2.6.18):
For the first call (in or out) everything is perfect. Maybe the second and third one as well but after some time (minutes...hour) if someone calls the CPU goes to 100 % and the speach is interrupted. The only solution for this is to quit the application and start again.Everything else works fine.
No other application shows this behaviour.
The old skype does not show this.

telefonchris | Wednesday, Sep 27

I tested today the new skype-beta-1.3.0.50
There are many improvements but the problem with the sound still
exists as described above (27.9.2006).

telefonchris | Monday, Oct 2

I've been trying to use pulseaudio's alsa emulation, and I've run into the following bug: http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/23. Could you possibly enlighten us to what you were trying to do that triggered the assert so we can track down the bug in pulseaudio. Thanks!

tom-parker | Tuesday, Oct 24

If alsa can access your webcam mic you can use it fine. You just need to setup .asoundrc to split capture/playback between the two alsa cards.

heavymetaler | Tuesday, Nov 14

What would be really great is if you could specify a specific alsa device name so that you don't have to setup your headset/etc. as the default playback device for everything else.

heavymetaler | Tuesday, Nov 14

Works fine, now if it only supported webcams via /dev/video I could quit running windows and the 3.0 beta under vmware to talk with my relatives.

justin-fitzgibbon | Saturday, Nov 18

Dear Skype,
Yes, things may not be as advanced as the other platforms, but just wanted to say, thank you for supporting Linux and all the hard work that goes into it, I can only imagine. This version ( 1.3) for me is running really well on Ubuntu ( 6.10 ). Thanks.

nabfa1 | Sunday, Dec 24

Well...I don't wanna sound ungrateful or anything but ...3.0.smtng for windows and 1.3 for linux??!?!?! I mean, do smtng, i wanna use my webcam :D it's 2007 after all!

deyan_d | Thursday, Jan 11

If you think it's just "pling" and you have Skype for Linux 4.0 with webcam, sms and a cherry on top - you are very very mistaken.

Have patience.

berkus | Thursday, Jan 11

I think all Linux users have been more than patient... But the simple truth is that as long as MS holds such a huge share of the OS's market they will always be neglected. The majority of users willing to pay for the non-free services of Skype use Windows and that's the only reason for this "versions mismatch". The fact itself that a free MSN Messenger clone exists (amsn) and is no worse than the original MS software should tell you something - it's not the platform, it's what the company's market researches show.
Cheers

deyan_d | Tuesday, Jan 16

Skype Video on Windows and Mac is now available... but where is Linux ??? Why Skype for linux doesn't support video?!! I is felt discriminated... :(

pawelbart1973 | Wednesday, Jan 31

for everyone who want/need videochat in skype for linux, but skype developers fu...ck linux users : http://www.openwengo.org/index.php/openwengo/public/homePage/openwengo/public/projectsClassicScreenShots

pawelbart1973 | Wednesday, Jan 31

Please,
a) stop whining
b) refrain from posting openwengo links here.

If you think it's all fast and easy to write such a client, please try to implement e.g. openwengo from the ground up, then I will look at you.
FO now, thank you.

berkus | Wednesday, Jan 31

Hi, Berkus. I just wanted to say I really appreciate all your work and efforts to develop Skype for Linux. I realize that everything existing in the Linux world regarding Skype is all your creation. And I don't think anybody here's blaming you for the current situation. A man alone can't keep up with the pace of an entire team...It's just that it's not fair you know.

deyan_d | Wednesday, Jan 31

VIDEO???

andreashopfgartner | Sunday, Feb 11

seems obvious that there are are more and more linux users. If skype doesn't support video on linux soon people might switch to other softs.

sirjuls | Wednesday, Mar 7

If Skype doesn't start offering consistency between client features then I will be forced to search for or write an alternative.

So far I have found this:
http://www.qnext.com/

Which seems to offer the same features to users of Linux, OSX, and Windblows.

Skype should start respecting its users and offer the small percentage of Linux and Mac users with the same features. Some of us decide on VoIP solutions for large organisations.

galataranator | Thursday, Mar 22

Wait wait, galataranator. Are you threatening me?

berkus | Friday, Mar 23

Thanks for all your work in getting Skype for Linux. As far as video, I'd like to request using the v4l2 api if/when you get around to implementing it. Thanks.

pajamabama | Sunday, Apr 1

Peut-être que les dév de skype sont trop occupés à faire fonctionner la version pour Vista correctement.
Et Linux passera au second plan :)

dominiqued121 | Saturday, May 5

Nice, now if I could only make it run on 64-bit Ubuntu..

juhovuohelainen | Friday, Jun 15

Skype 1.4 looks good. It would be great one AMD64 version.
I know that there is the static version and you must start it with linux32...bla bla bla. but that is a temporary solution.
It dont cost nothing to compile one amd64 binary, which arquitecture is quite popular in this days.
Thank you for your job and effort.

gonzalomarcote | Tuesday, Jun 26

Dear Berkus,
My internet cafe is waiting for the video function in Skype for linux. Due to the popularity of the video chat(MSN, Yahoo, Skype) in my place, I still using Windows... I won't go for Wengo & others, our hope is in Skype now, please dear Berkus... xD

leekingkongsg | Saturday, Jun 30

How about these....
Video, where the fu**ck is the video. OpenWengo has video on linux, and its based on a decompiled version of skype.
If your gonna keep it closed source, you might as well keep up with the open source community.

IA32EXT/X86_64/AMD 64 support.
If your gonna keep it closed source, you might as well keep up with the open source community.

PPC for linux.
If your gonna keep it closed source, you might as well keep up with the open source community.

If you cant keep up, or get a bigger team, then people will stop using skype as it falls behind open source ripoffs like openwengo.

tshdwsclan | Wednesday, Jul 18

Re. Skype-2.0.0.27-fc5:
This Ver. can't accept the password with blank letter.
If the password includes the blank letter, the login button can't press.
2.0.0.13-fc5 is ok

linux.jy.su | Friday, Dec 28

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